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November 6, 2012 at 2:01am
by Psybertron Big Pirsig event coming up at MSU, first week in December. Sadly, despite efforts, it doesn’t look like I will be able to be there, just too many other work & travel demands this quarter. Good luck to organizer Chas Pinkava and all involved.
Flight To New Reason
And the wall of death is lowered in Times Square.
No-one seems to care,
They carry on as if nothing were there.
The wind is blowing harder now,
Blowing dust into my eyes.
The dust settles on my skin,
Making a crust I cannot move in
And I'm hovering like a fly
Waiting for the windshield on the freeway.
When taking stock I noticed that I started this Blog 2 days after September 11th 2001.
The lines of thought here had been keeping me awake at nights long before 9/11 woke the world. Nothing in this Blog has anything directly to do with those events, but I'm not alone in being awoken to the power of the Blog by their information aftermath. Perhaps in some small way the idea that western rational arrogance, which dogs progress in so many aspects of life, can be influenced by my puny efforts to bring alternative philosophies into the mainstream. Many greater people than I have tried before and failed over three millennia, so I'm not holding my breath. If 9/11 brings anything new to this ancient debate, apart from its awful significance, it is the fact that the antidote to classical logic is sure as hell not a flight from reason.
That way lies only evil.
The words "creative destruction" can never again be used lightly.
The Lights Went Out On Broadway.
There's something solid forming in the air,And the wall of death is lowered in Times Square.
No-one seems to care,
They carry on as if nothing were there.
The wind is blowing harder now,
Blowing dust into my eyes.
The dust settles on my skin,
Making a crust I cannot move in
And I'm hovering like a fly
Waiting for the windshield on the freeway.
Fly On A Windshield.
Copyright Peter Gabriel 1974
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
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6 Comments
#1. Mark Maxwell 03.17.2013
If this is the best they can do then it seems to me Robert Pirsig’s restatement of Carl Jung is fading fast.
McWatt got the thought Police onto me for reminding folks of the ‘fake paper’.
I think that just about says it all?
How things change with experience….
#2. Ian 03.18.2013
Hi Mark, at the level Pinkava, Sexson, Cruzado and the DeWeeses’s pitched it around the ZMM chautauqua and the recognition of Pirsig by MSU I think they got it right. Some of the stuff Sexson writes from the mythos angle has quality in its own right. I wasn’t there, and numbers seemed quite sparse, but I doubt the event progressed the metaphysics greatly.
#3. Ian 04.02.2013
As far as the “fake paper” is concerned, I take a pragmatic view above any personal views. I’m as disappointed as anyone that my advice to address it openly at the time, and in the subsequent Baggini interview, was ignored. However, assuming “we” retain a common motivation to promote MoQ and better understanding of where its value fits the world – then clearly that paper is not the first thing we would want to advertise to newcomers. I retain historical links to it in the blog, in context.
#4. Mark Maxwell 04.10.2013
Hi Ian,
Let this stand.
There have been two significant developments since ‘Lila’ was published:
1. Dynamic Coherence.
2. The Hoax Paper.
The MoQ (Lila) can not accommodate 2.
1. can accommodate 2.
[The MD Hierarchy] threw the baby out with the bath water.
#5. Ian 04.15.2013
You are obviously being selective in those “significant developments” Mark. I’m guessing by 1 you mean your own work on the subject? But it’s existed since sometime around the big bang.
I actually disagree with the assertion that MoQ cannot accommodate 2. (I think you are referring to MD not accommodating it.)
#6. Psybertron 06.11.2013
Hi Mark,
Although you promote your very own personal invention of Dynamic Coherence Sweet Spots as an extension to Pirsig’s MoQ (At the top of your Facebook page) you in fact attack Pirsig and the MoQ in personal terms like “talentless” and “ignorant”, with your oh so witty satirical cartoons and mashups of book covers and the like. You show very little sign of wanting to develop the MoQ in any positive way. Sad also that you are both self-promoting about your own contribution AND ad-hominem in your attacks on others, even sadder that choose someone like Henry as one of your targets.
I know you’re still bitter and twisted about the Liverpool events, and your attempts at satire are an outlet for that anger. You have the facebook page for that now. I do let your comments through on my personal blog – the only moderation I apply is to neutralise where you choose to make accusations against named individuals, particularly as sadly, the vast majority of your attacks are ad-hominem. There are other channels for personal grudges, and whilst I’ve offered to mediate in the past, I won’t allow you to use my personal blog for that.
It’s sad also that you choose to ignore the substantive content of anything said. I too have made my comments about “originality”. I too have said that MD is in danger of throwing the MoQ baby out with the bathwater. So have others like Khoo and David M. The difference is we are trying to raise the baby, whereas you are personally attacking the plumber.
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