Evolving Religion ?

Whilst the Christian / biblical tradition seems determined to degenerate backwards to ancient dogmas, witness the contagious spread of Intelligent Design Creationism meme from Bush’s mouth to the mainstream press here in Western Australia, and (god forbid) the science classrooms of future generations, one beacon is the suggestion from Salman Rushdie that the Qu’ran could benefit from positive evolution – a reformation – from the 7th century to the 21st.

It would be far from ironic, if the more oriental continued to lead the occidental. Go for it Islam, listen to your thinkers, you know it makes sense.

Intellectual may be a dirty word in some circles, but it really is the only thing that can save us from crude socio-cultural “democracy” – popular survival of the most-convenient, lowest-quality common-denominator, memes.

(That is of course what the Pirsigian Metaphysics of Quality would say too.)

[Post Note : My god, it gets worse. Full page “advertorial” in the West Australian positively promotiong IDC, and a DVD explaining the origins of life from some “missionary crusade” pastor, obviously a great source of disinterested knowledge on the subject. Wake up and smell the corruption of future generations. Criminal as I said, to give this stuff any credibility on a par with anything remotely scientific.]

The Tail Really Does Wag The Dog

Work In Progress – Interesting series of columns by the BBC’s Peter Day, charting very rapid market disruptions, mainly by new technologies, Google, Blogging and Podcasting, and also by the Chinese economy and Banking competition. The old 80 year Kondratiev economic cycles are being severely strained everywhere.

It really is spotting the market effect of the technology, rather than the capabilities of the technolgy per se. The Excite / Google / Amazon example says it all. It used to be millions of customers in dozens of markets, now it’s millions of markets each with dozens of customers – the so-called long tail.

Still haven’t got into podcasting, transmitting or receiving, but it looks unstoppable as the coming media. Leon reminded me of that this morning with this link to the first pod-cast from space. Good luck with the re-entry guys.

I’ve Started So I’ll Finish

Still Reading David Chalmers’ “The Conscious Mind: In Search of a Fundamental Theory” after blogging about the intro earlier.

It’s quite tough technically, as well as tough in terms of credibility. His appeals to logical possibility in his thought experiments stretch “conceivability” (and I never was very good with pure thought experiments, in the absence of physics); you can’t help feeling the problems might be inherent in the logical premises, rather than any conclusions that follow. However, to give him his due, he appreciates this and spends a good deal of space addressing every possible objection and doubt, every which way he can think of. Tedious, and I almost gave up, but I’m glad I didn’t.

His most famous thought experiment is his Zombie Twin, a variation on earlier Twin Earth ideas (watery stuff vs H2O, has “essential” connotations). In this case you are asked to accept the “logical possibility” of having a Zombie twin of yourself on a physically identical twin earth where the only difference is that the Zombie has no “subjective aspect to its consciousness” yet all its behaviours, decisions and responses being otherwise identical. The Zombie is identical to you except that its lights are out, it’s all dark inside, it knows nothing it is like to “feel like” you, subjectively.

Like the “mile-high unicycle” it stretches credulity that it could come about, and work with any natural physical history, so it may be physically impossible, but you have to concede it’s “logically possible”. (Deutsch by the way spends a good deal of time on this distinction between logical and physical possibility too, and I notice Chalmers himself has several other papers dealing with any gap between “conceivability and possibility” – interesting in its own right).

His main case is that subjective (or phenomenal) consciousness is the hard unsolved problem, as opposed to any causal, behavioural, (psychlogical) explanation of how conciousness works, which if not solved beyond dispute, is at least soluble in principle. I think he’s right there.

His other main thread is “supervenience” – roughly being dependent on, but not necessarily causally explained by. The Zombie stuff above is saying subjective (phenomenal) consciousness is not logically supervenient on the phsyical world. I like the fact he concedes that taking physics as (by definition) the most fundamental explanation of how things work in the world, consciousness must be physically supervenient on the physical world, but what he’s effectively saying that physics as it is currently known must have something missing that can reductively and logically explain subjective consciousness. I have to admit the penny hasn’t quite dropped yet on supervenience. He goes on to review all the whackier quantum consciousness theories, (even Hameroff’s pixie-dust) and for me he is right, that whilst these “may” turn out to have some relevance to the physical causal description of how psychological consciousness works, they are still not addressing the hard problem. The observer participation aspect in quantum physical outcomes is about as close as it gets, but it still doesn’t seem much like the view from the subjective side.

For me the problem he is showing is still the obvious one. “Scientific reasoning” is never going to explain subjectivity, without some new resources in addition to the logically positive objectivity of scientific reasoning, which by definition excludes subjectivity. He insists that’s not what he’s showing, but so far that’s my conclusion. Anyway, the guy’s obviously done his homework, so it seems essential to read on and absorb.

I guess the point he would agree with me is that the problem with the “hard problem of subjective consciousness” is not a mystery in the physics per se, though there may yet be something to be discovered in physics in this area, it’s an absence of the right reasoning tools and techniques generally, and perhaps specifically for explaining causation (where I need to understand his supervenience better).

Strange that Chalmers doesn’t include reference to Deutsch, I guess he must have become aware since this book however. Also don’t quite understand his objections to Dennett’s natural history views, like whatever logical and physical possibilities, any explanation has to include how it came to be. So far time is missing from Chalmers story. But there’s still time 🙂

Housekeeping

Fixed Contact page, Fixed resource pages, Pirsig pages and Pirsig Photos page in terms of broken links and some minor re-organisation. If you find any broken links please let me know.

(Still have Categories, Bibliography and RSS / XML feeds to sort. Getting there.)

Stone Me

Great story on the Beeb.

(Unfortunately it’s from that class of “today scientists announced to the media” so take it with a pinch of white powder, that they may be extrapolating their findings just a touch, working up justification for something, funding maybe ?)

The clue is the word “only” in the fifth para. Yeah right.

MoQ Conference Slides On-Line

I’ve uploaded the slides I used to present my paper at the 7 July 2005 Metaphysics of Quality conference. They include a link to the paper itself. The slides make less sense by themselves than the paper, which as Alice points out is pretty incoherent itself 🙂

[ The Paper ] [ The Slides (Require MS-Powerpoint or viewer.) ]

(For future use, they’re also linked under the “Pirsig MoQ Pages” links heading in the side-bar. I now have some housekeeping to do on broken links in the non-blog pirsig and other pages on the psybertron site. Bear with me.)

Don’t Eat This

Browsed Rivets for a while this evening. I’m still wiping the tears from my eyes.

Scroll down to see “This is what happens if you eat Pizza with pineapple.” An example of fine “send us the money” web design for evangelists – not. (I won’t link on principle – Rivets just has to be browsed to get the effect.)

This is typical of the whacky stuff he links to “Don’t Eat it“. Toss up which is whackier, the food manufacturers who sell this stuff or The Sneeze for recording it all for us. Love putting the jigsaw of the pig back together. Magic.

Dean Summers Pragmatism

Dean’s BA Dissertation “Pragmatism and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: A study of Robert Pirsig’s contribution to the Pragmatism of Peirce, James and Dewey.” is excellent. It points out explicitly how Pirsig’s MoQ adds constructively to Peirce, Dewey and James’ “American Pragmatism”, and more than that reminds us how far the “anything you like” caricature meme of pragmatism couldn’t be further from the moral reality of the matter.

As well as looking backwards to recent philosophers, I’ve been trying to link Pirsig to current writers too. I was struck by a number of things, about which there really seems little room for argument …

Pirsig is pragmatic.
Morals are pragmatic.
The “static” is only temporarily so, it’s evolving.
It’s the “dynamic” that drives the evolution.

Dean (1994) summarises “MoQ is a philosophical movement which aims at reunification of philosophy with life …. in a sense [Pirsig’s] texts may be seen as a demonstration of the pragmatic intention. In them he does unify philosophy with everything else that goes to make up a persons life …. evolutionary morality follow[s] logically and without contradiction.”

Which is uncannily close to intentional pragmatist Dennett who (in DDI 1995) said “In a single stroke, the idea of evolution by natural selection unifies the realm of life, meaning and purpose with the realm of space and time, cause and effect, mechanism and physical law …” The best idea ever, bar none.

David Chalmers Consciousness

Having finished Darwin’s Dangerous Idea, it was a toss-up between more Dennett or David Chalmers (or something completely different like Barbara Tuchman, still unread).

Chalmers name-drops an impressive list of acknowledgments, but is brave enough to point out that Hofstadter (his original mentor) and Dennett largely disagree with him. I think he overhypes the exciting mysetry angle, but he is right to distinguish the hard problem (the subjective “quality” of consciousness) from the easy problem (the physical “causality” of senses and actions), and in doing so admits to preserving an unfashionable duality. OK by me.

Lingusitically it gets tough because all the words are overloaded in this space. I actually believe his choice of phenomenal for the former and psychlogical for the latter seems somewhat perverse to me, but he explains his choice of terms. With similar caveats I would choose “mental ” and “causal”, but clearly previous use of the word mental is too overloaded for Chalmers to accept.

I’m going to have to read more to understand precisely how “qualia” are distinguished from immediate experience, but despite previously believing I disagreed with qualia, the parallel’s with Pirsig, Barfield, Peirce and Northrop are almost tangible. Now that is exciting, as is the use of quality and the root of qualia (phenomenal quality). Sadly none of those references makes it to Chalmers’ bibliography – but nothing new there – there is an academic mainstream that insulates itself from what it sees as non-academics. Still, we’re after quality, not fame here.

[Post Note : One thing I do agree with Chalmers on, that I forgot to mention, is the idea of consciousness being just some kind of “illusion” is not very helpful, in fact it’s a cop-out. Probably the point at which Dennett disagrees with him ?]

Sin City and more in Perth

Saw Sin City (ex Local Pricks) in Perth’s Amplifier Bar on Saturday night. Too short a set, but as good as I remembered. Plenty of none-too-serious strutting, pouting stage-craft form Barbie (Tash) and heavy rock sound, but with catchy riffs and choruses. I remember now why Tommy’s drumming was so distinctive; twin pedals / hammers on the bass, both feet barefoot. (They slightly overdid the “it’s great to be back in WA” angle, but they and the audience were happy – that’s what counts.)

They were supported by Screwtop (Screwtop Detonators actually). Undistinguished but competent twin guitar rock; Once I’d observed to the two frontmen, one blond & shaggy the other dark & straight, had something of the boyish, comfortable tomfoolery of Rossi and Parfitt about them, I couldn’t stop thinking of them as a heavy version of the Quo. Harmless fun.

At Blue to the Bone beforehand I saw John Meyer again (but no Flick ?), and afterwards saw Lindsey Wells in a new light – his mannerisms of exaggerated accents, gestures and face-pulls, not to mention the flash behind the head and tooth picking on Hey Joe, still grate in a man “of his age”, but actually he’s makes a very good blues rock sound, much more subtly understated than his manner. Must watch him with my eyes closed next time.

Today, I went to the charity Sunday Lunch review by Rick Steele and his family at the Dianella, in aid of Amputees in Action. Musically a little too casual and un-rehearsed, a little more emotional than technical, but this was for the most part a family affair amongst 150 old family friends, so let’s cut ’em some slack. Sadly no Ryan Narkle with his Digeridoo, but good to see Rick with his Jess, Jake, Luke and Katy all playing & singing. Wayne Freer kept it all together on the bass. Luke led on Across the Universe (Harrison) and Starting Over (Lennon) and had technical difficulties getting his guitar amp going, so I’m not quite sure what to expect of his band Sleepy Jackson. Katy did four or five solo un-plugged versions of her own Little Birdy stuff. Great voice & sounds, if limited musically by the format. Be interesting to hear the arranged versions.