17 comments on “MoQ Conference Update

  1. sounds like you are somewhat a celebrity in the MOQ crowd. very cool. It also sounds like you enjoyed the conference and the particpants.Had you met pirsig prior to this?

    ” Gavin Gee-Clough delivered an, at times vitriolic, tirade against the low-quality culture of education by imitation, mediated with an enthralling mix of sex and drugs and rock and roll.”

    I wrote this to Geoganna recently.

    “I think many approach college education as something to get through, to get good grades from and to get good jobs with… that and drinking and screwing around a lot.

    I think Alan Bloom touched on this in “The Closing of the American Mind?.”

  2. Celebrity ? I think not. Very un-Zen. Just fortunate.
    (I think only Ant had met Bob before.)

    I love the ambiguity seeing my words in your quote. It was the presentation (and not education) that was “mediated by the sex and drugs and rock and roll”. Excellent.

    I’ve noticed that Alan Bloom reference before, must read it.

  3. Here’s a nice overview of the book. Seems I misspelled his first name. (hope georganna is on vacation).

    http://www.fee.org/vnews.php?nid=1835

    “I love the ambiguity seeing my words in your quote. It was the presentation (and not education) that was “mediated by the sex and drugs and rock and roll?.”

    Sometimes I think I only get about i/2 of what you say.

  4. Sounds like a good time had by all. Look forward to reading the papers.

  5. Ah yes, I remember the Allan Bloom stuff now … all that stuff about rock & roll being degenerate, led to lots of disagreements on MoQ-Discuss.

    People show their prejudices in what they choose to attack. Better to be constructive IMHO. Anyway, moving on.

  6. Hi David, real pity you couldn’t make it, I believe 7/7 will turn out to be quite a special date. It’s along time since I had such a huge injection of positive vibes.

    Must find a way to meet up with you in Oz in the next month or so. I’ll e-mail you.

  7. “People show their prejudices in what they choose to attack.”

    Is this a truism I should investigate?
    this sounds something like “you only see the faults in others that you yourself have”

    Ah, the sixties, the age of enlightenment, if you weren’t too stoned to notice.

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  9. I assert that Robert did not have a nervous breakdown as described in Zen … but a spiritual transformation. Eckhart Tolle speaks of the stillness or presence in the present moment at the moment of sense perception. This is the narrow gate of life as Jesus said. This IS quality! This moment! right now!

    I think Robert made himself wrong for what was happening to him and the people around him who are trapped in the egoic state of mind didn’t know what the hell was going on.

    Robert Pirsig is a Bodhisattva

  10. Zachrey,

    There is no doubt, if you read Pirsig’s words in the timeline, that the thing that “really drove him mad” was that people around him could not see what he was seeing, rather than his own emlightenment.

    I do believe he saw something important.

    Having met and corresponded with Bob, I doubt he is anything other than a normal, highly intelligent, but imperfect, human being, who happens also to be a good writer.

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  13. “Sometimes I think I only get about i/2 of what you say.”
    (comment #3. by alice on 07.13.2005)
    Not only does she only get 1/2 of what you say, but it’s the imaginary half
    (= i/2).

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